Post by kirbi on Jul 26, 2011 18:41:00 GMT -1
Just because it's an interesting subject...
While the attacks in Norway were really awful events, they were also... strange for the type that they were.
One of these is that Breivik did both in the first place - they seem very different in aspect for 'crazy' attacks. A bombing would seem to be a far more detached affair than a spree shooting.
It could be that the bomb (which had far less casualties) was simply intended as a distraction, and it definitely worked as one - when victims tried to call the police once the shooting began, they were reportedly told that they were only taking calls related to the bombing.
But Breivik seems to have stayed to see the bomb go off, or so the timeline seems to indicate (he was seen boarding a ferry to the island an hour and a half after the bombing, which occurred around 45 mins away).
So were both the point? What if he's been caught at the bomb site?
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More Weirdness. Mass shooters, historically, aren't taken alive. But Breivik stood down as soon as the police arrived - making it even sadder that they didn't get there sooner (they arrived around an hour and a half after it began.)
Why did he want to get caught?
To make his point? I'd imagine his manifesto would've been found anyway.
Because he knew that he could only get 23 years in jail? That's still a long time when you're on the wrong end of it.
Maybe he wanted to differentiate himself from the Muslim extremists he hates so much? But he's expressed admiration for Al Qaida, despite his extreme views toward the people they purport to represent.
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He's planned this for a long time, working on it full time for years, setting up a front company to enable him to buy large quantities of fertilizer without suspicion, taking trips abroad to buy firearms (though unsuccessfully, he ended up getting them at home).
He worked alone - or claimed to, directly after the attacks. On Sunday, 6 others were arrested in connection with him, but then released. He's now claiming that he has links with a new, small international group 'The Knights Templar' (yes, he's a Mason), but it seems spurious.
He planned it to coincide with the month when most take their holidays in Norway - hence the relatively low fatality amount at the bombing. It worked against him there, but for him in a bunch of other ways -the police force was depleted - the call dispatchers were so overworked with the bombing calls that they refused to take others at first - the entire team of police officers trained to fly the helicopter were on leave. ALL OF THEM. (They had to take a boat out to the island once they got that far, leaving them open and vulnerable. The boat also couldn't carry the weight of the officers plus their equipment - they had to bail out water all the way there.)
He comes quietly. Is calm. When his requests regarding his arraignment are refused (to wear his military uniform, for it to be public), he remains so.
*****
While his actions are so extreme, he himself seems nothing more than determined.
He's not as insane as I'd like.
While the attacks in Norway were really awful events, they were also... strange for the type that they were.
One of these is that Breivik did both in the first place - they seem very different in aspect for 'crazy' attacks. A bombing would seem to be a far more detached affair than a spree shooting.
It could be that the bomb (which had far less casualties) was simply intended as a distraction, and it definitely worked as one - when victims tried to call the police once the shooting began, they were reportedly told that they were only taking calls related to the bombing.
But Breivik seems to have stayed to see the bomb go off, or so the timeline seems to indicate (he was seen boarding a ferry to the island an hour and a half after the bombing, which occurred around 45 mins away).
So were both the point? What if he's been caught at the bomb site?
*****
More Weirdness. Mass shooters, historically, aren't taken alive. But Breivik stood down as soon as the police arrived - making it even sadder that they didn't get there sooner (they arrived around an hour and a half after it began.)
Why did he want to get caught?
To make his point? I'd imagine his manifesto would've been found anyway.
Because he knew that he could only get 23 years in jail? That's still a long time when you're on the wrong end of it.
Maybe he wanted to differentiate himself from the Muslim extremists he hates so much? But he's expressed admiration for Al Qaida, despite his extreme views toward the people they purport to represent.
*****
He's planned this for a long time, working on it full time for years, setting up a front company to enable him to buy large quantities of fertilizer without suspicion, taking trips abroad to buy firearms (though unsuccessfully, he ended up getting them at home).
He worked alone - or claimed to, directly after the attacks. On Sunday, 6 others were arrested in connection with him, but then released. He's now claiming that he has links with a new, small international group 'The Knights Templar' (yes, he's a Mason), but it seems spurious.
He planned it to coincide with the month when most take their holidays in Norway - hence the relatively low fatality amount at the bombing. It worked against him there, but for him in a bunch of other ways -the police force was depleted - the call dispatchers were so overworked with the bombing calls that they refused to take others at first - the entire team of police officers trained to fly the helicopter were on leave. ALL OF THEM. (They had to take a boat out to the island once they got that far, leaving them open and vulnerable. The boat also couldn't carry the weight of the officers plus their equipment - they had to bail out water all the way there.)
He comes quietly. Is calm. When his requests regarding his arraignment are refused (to wear his military uniform, for it to be public), he remains so.
*****
While his actions are so extreme, he himself seems nothing more than determined.
He's not as insane as I'd like.
